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Re: healthcare bill support sinking - will it pass or fail?

Postby jross » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:20 pm

trickydick wrote:
claimtruth wrote:
trickydick wrote:Coakley isn't that bad

Does anyone else think she looks like Julie Andrews?

I didn't think about that. She isn't hard to look at.

I guess, since he made the Cosmo nude centerfold, that many don't find him hard to look at either.

Han't the US changed? Ex-porn stars running for office, and some being elected.

I always knew that politicians were prostitutes, but this takes it to another level.

I'm okay with it. I always thought it was hypocritical that people who sold their souls could run and be elected, but people who rented their bodies out couldn't.
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Re: healthcare bill support sinking - will it pass or fail?

Postby trickydick » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:34 pm

I didn't know she was a ex-porn star... :?:
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Re: healthcare bill support sinking - will it pass or fail?

Postby The Saint » Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:48 pm

msnbc news - Pelosi: 'I don't see the votes' for Sen. health bill

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34973418/ns ... re_reform/

obamacare in it's current form is no more!

turn out the lights the party is over!

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poor devils. :violin: :violin:
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Re: healthcare bill support sinking - will it pass or fail?

Postby IronfootMcGurk » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:21 pm

Here's another one for you, Saint! http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Brock-Lesn ... anada.aspx

Always figured ole Brock for a Republican. Wonder what his tax bracket is.

BTW, didjall read that piece in the AJ lastweek about concierge care? Idea being that you can't get the best medical care if you spend 5 minutes with a doc as one of 50 patients the doc sees that day, and the docs get frazzled. Answer is to sign on for longer more personal care by keeping the doc on retainer--say a couple of thou or ten thou a year. Then you get more of the doc's time and s/he gets a lower caseload and the same bucks! Win-win, if you got the bread. :D

Which of course means that the rest of us get standard care but not the best care. :shock:
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Re: healthcare bill support sinking - will it pass or fail?

Postby IronfootMcGurk » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:38 am

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Re: healthcare bill support sinking - will it pass or fail?

Postby The Saint » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:45 pm

breitbart.com - Obama vows to beat 'blizzard' of opposition

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

excerpts from article

President Barack Obama vowed Saturday to beat a "blizzard" of opposition and to salvage his crusade for change, leaving a snow-buried White House to rally Democrats spooked by looming November polls.
Obama motorcaded through deserted Washington streets during a historic winter storm to fire up a party rocked by panic and disaffection after the president's reform drive hit a roadblock after just a year in power.

"(It's) good to be among friends. So committed to the future of this party and this country ... a blizzard ... Snowmageddon here in DC!" Obama told Democratic National Committee members hunkered down in a Washington hotel.

Obama sharply warned that he would not give up on his effort to pass health care reform through Congress, even though the loss of the Democratic Senate supermajority leaves his wavering party few easy options to enact it.

"Just in case there's any confusion out there, let me be clear. I am not going to walk away from health insurance reform," Obama said, in one of his most feisty speeches since his 2008 election campaign.

end of excerpts.

it's plain to see that the poor devil is stubborn and did not learn his listen after his defeats in copenhagen, virginia, new jersey and massassachuetts. :lol: :lol: :hand: :shhh: :naughty: :violin: :violin:

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Re: healthcare bill support sinking - will it pass or fail?

Postby The Saint » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:09 am

fox news - Obama Writing Health Bill to Skirt GOP Filibuster

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02 ... tion-open/
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the article

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The president reportedly is working on health care legislation intended to reconcile differences between House and Senate Democrats that could be attached to a budget bill and pass with only 51 Senate votes.

AP

Feb. 18: President Obama speaks at a fundraiser for Sen. Michael Bennet in Denver.
President Obama is working on health care legislation intended to reconcile differences between House and Senate Democrats that could be attached to a budget bill and avoid a Republican filibuster, according to a published report.

The president's proposal, which is still being written, will be posted on the Internet by Monday morning, senior administration officials and Congressional aides told the New York Times.

By piggybacking the legislation onto a budget bill, Democrats would be able to advance the bill with a simple majority of just 51 votes, averting a Republican filibuster in the Senate.

The White House signaled Thursday that an aggressive, all-Democratic strategy for overhauling the nation's health system remains a serious option, even as Obama invites Republicans to next week's televised summit to seek possible compromises.

"It will be a reconciliation bill," the Times quoted a Democratic aide as saying. "If Republicans don't come with any substantial offers, this is what we would do."

The administration's stance could set the stage for a political showdown, with Democrats struggling to enact the president's top domestic priority and Republicans trying to block what many conservatives see as government overreach.

Obama's plan, like the House and Senate bills, would expand coverage to some 30 million, require most Americans to carry insurance or face financial penalties, and block insurers from denying coverage to people with pre-existing medical conditions, the Times reported.

One Capitol Hill Democrat told the Times abortion remains "a wild card."

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Thursday that Obama plans to have a health proposal that "will take some of the best ideas and put them into a framework" ahead of the Feb. 25 summit.

Obama has said he is open to Republican ideas for changing the health care system. But many Democrats seriously doubt GOP leaders will support compromises that could draw enough lawmakers from both parties to create a bipartisan majority.

If next week's meeting does not break the logjam, congressional Democrats will face a tough choice. They can pass a highly diluted health care bill or nothing at all, which would send them into the November elections with a high-profile failure despite their control of Congress and the White House.

Or they can use the aggressive and contentious tactic, known as reconciliation, to pass a far-reaching health care bill in the Senate without having to face the GOP. Democrats lost their ability to block filibusters when Massachusetts Republican Scott Brown won a Senate seat last month.

Both parties have used reconciliation rules in the past. But Republicans have practically dared Democrats to do so on health care, citing polls showing significant opposition to the legislation.

It's unclear whether the House or Senate can muster the necessary votes. Democrats, who now hold 255 of the House's 435 seats, drew only one GOP ally when the House passed its health care bill, 220-215, last November. Since then, one Democrat who voted for the bill has resigned, one has died and a third plans to leave office Feb. 28. Moreover, changes meant to meet Senate demands could peel away enough liberals on one end, and party centrists on the other, to cause the revised bill to fail.

In the Senate, Democrats control 59 seats, and reconciliation rules require only a simple majority. But several Democratic senators have expressed discomfort or outright opposition to using the rules to thwart filibusters on health care.

The White House has invited Republicans to bring their own proposals, but GOP leaders have treated the event warily at best.

House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio said Thursday, "a productive, bipartisan conversation on health care starts with a clean sheet of paper." His office labeled next week's meeting the "summit of all fears."

But at least one moderate Republican was optimistic about the session.

Sen. Susan Collins of Maine said if the summit succeeds, a bipartisan bill could be put together and passed within six weeks. "My advice to our Republican leadership is we should view this as a good faith effort and go in there with a consensus list of provisions that we could support and that would make a difference," she said in an interview with The Associated Press.

House Democrats are insisting on several changes to the bill the Senate passed on Christmas Eve, before Brown was elected to succeed the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy. The changes include reducing or eliminating a proposed tax on generous employer-provider health plans, and eliminating a Medicaid subsidy aimed only at Nebraska.

Also, some House Democrats who oppose legalized abortion are demanding that the Senate's more permissive language on the topic be replaced by the House provisions. It was unclear Thursday how that might be achieved.

The cost of the legislation -- about $1 trillion over 10 years -- would be paid for through Medicare cuts and a series of tax increases. House officials said Democratic leaders are not yet pressing wary colleagues to back a health care bill under the special procedural rules. That could happen soon, however, if next week's summit fails to produce a bipartisan breakthrough.

House congressional aides said they expect leaders such as Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., to tell colleagues that using all their parliamentary muscle to pass a health care bill -- even if it triggers withering criticism from the right -- is preferable to facing voters empty-handed this fall.

end of article.

so much for reaching out to the other side - mr. barrack hussein obama and his merry band of idiots will try to ram through a failed healthcare bill which the American people have already publicly rejected and that they do NOT want.

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Re: healthcare bill support sinking - will it pass or fail?

Postby The Saint » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:36 pm

usa today - Obama spars with McCain, Cantor at health summit

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... -but-how/1

nothing was accomplished and thus the democrats will attempt to ram through a obamacare health bill that Americans do not want.

it was all for show.

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Re: healthcare bill support sinking - will it pass or fail?

Postby smcrorey » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:24 pm

**Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwn**
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Re: healthcare bill support sinking - will it pass or fail?

Postby IronfootMcGurk » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:04 pm

Here's a good discussion of the summit by Pearlstein of the WP: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... id=topnews

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