healthcare bill support sinking - will it pass or fail?

[The Saint]

obamacare will pass sometime next year (without republican support).

the questions remain

will the bill include the government option?

will tax dollars be used to murder babies via abortions?

will obamacare bankrupt the country and will it destroy what is left of medicare and medicaid?

[The Saint]

possible conflict of interest?

fox news - Economist Was Under Contract With HHS While Touting Health Reform Bill

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01 ... ng-reform/

what happened to mr barrack hussein obama's promise of transparency?

http://www.breitbart.tv/c-span-ceo-whit ... -coverage/

crooks and liars.

[jross]

possible conflict of interest?

fox news - Economist Was Under Contract With HHS While Touting Health Reform Bill

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01 ... ng-reform/

what happened to mr barrack hussein obama's promise of transparency?

http://www.breitbart.tv/c-span-ceo-whit ... -coverage/

crooks and liars.

I tend to agree. Washington is full of crooks and liars. I don't think that being honest is a good way to get elected to national office. I'm also unhappy about the lack of transparency. John Stewart was raking Obama and Co. across the coals last night also.

Interesting though. When you don't think that they have a hope in Hel, you refer to them as "poor devils". When it looks like they're going to succeed, they're "crooks and liars". Just an observation. I'm kind of wondering what you're going to call folks supporting the constitutional rights of persons of the TBGL community when they start threatening your perspective.

"Devils, crooks and liars." Sounds like an old Cher song.

[The Saint]

cnbc - Health Care Overhaul Bill Is 'Hanging by a Thread': Dodd

http://www.cnbc.com/id/34804315

excerpt from the article

Health care reform is "hanging on by a thread," and one or two votes could determine the outcome of the heavily-debated bill, Democratic Sen. Chris Dodd told CNBC Monday.

end of excerpt.

cnbc - Poll: Obama Health Care Marks Hit New Low

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11 ... 4856.shtml

excerpt from the article

Just 36 percent of Americans approve of Mr. Obama's handling of health care, according to the poll, conducted from Jan. 6 – 10. Fifty-four percent disapprove. In December of last year, 42 percent of Americans approved of the president’s handling of health care, and 47 percent approved in October.

end of excerpt.

human events - Labor Leaders Oppose Obama's 'Cadillac' Healthcare Tax

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=35159

excerpt from the article

Richard Trumka, president of AFL-CIO, spoke at the National Press Club in Washington prior to the White House meeting saying that this unprecedented tax on health benefits “pits working Americans who need health care for their families against working Americans struggling to keep health care for their families.”

end of excerpt.

things are not looking good for obamacare - the people do not want it and now the unions are protesting against an unfair tax.

if the poor devils do pass something it will be a watered down version which will not cover illegals and have NO government/public option.

[The Saint]

whdh - Thursday, January 14, 2010 - The Hiller Instinct: Suffolk University Poll

http://www1.whdh.com/features/articles/hiller/BO133471/

the article

Scott Brown is riding a wave. It could break before it hits shore, or, it could crash through the Democratic seawall of state politics and send him all the way to the U.S. Senate.

Our exclusive 7NEWS/Suffolk University Poll shows Brown, with 50%, in front of Coakley with 46%. Independent Joe Kennedy gets 3% and just 1% is still undecided.

How quickly has this race turned around?

In November, Coakley was beating Brown by 31 percentage points. Now, Brown is up by 4% -- a change of 35% in two months.

Suffolk Poll University pollster David Paleologos said, "Here's how the race breaks down. Scott Brown wins among men, Martha Coakley among women. Democrats: Coakley. Republicans and Independents: Brown, by a wide, wide margin."

"I’m not in your courtroom. I’m not a defendant. Let me answer the question,” Brown said to Coakley in the last debate.

One reason for Coakley's collapse is her performance in debates. Nearly half of likely voters say they've seen one and asked who won -- 41% say Brown, 25% Coakley.

During the campaign Coakley said, "I want to be a leader who's ready to get real results on health care reform...”

And Coakley is not being helped by her pledge to help pass the Democrat's national health care bill. Fifty-one percent of likely voters here say no to it while 36% say yes. Sixty-one percent think Washington can't afford it.

Vicki Kennedy said, "As Ted would say, 'January 19th is the date, Martha Coakley is the candidate.'"

Another surprise -- The Kennedy family's endorsement may have actually hurt Coakley. With 27% said it makes them less likely to vote for her... 20% more likely.

"The Kennedy endorsement resonates among registered Democrats, but registered Democrats are spoken for," Paleologos said.

And here's one more surprise. While Brown is beating Coakley head-to-head, 64% of voters we surveyed say Coakley will win the election.

"People don't believe that the rest of the state of Massachusetts will vote for Scott Brown, despite the fact that they personally will vote for Scott Brown," Paleologos said.

If -- repeat if -- Scott Brown wins next Tuesday, it is no exaggeration to say he will change the world of politics as we know it.

end of article.

if mr. brown wins - obamacare and mr. obama's liberal policies might be in BIG TROUBLE.

the memory of teddy and the so called star power of mr. obama are not helping mrs. coakley.

God Bless America

[The Saint]

abc news - Republican Scott Brown Defeats Democrat Martha Coakley in Mass. Senate Race

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republic ... id=9602776

turn out the lights the party is over.

with the recent political defeats in virginia, new jersey and with mr. brown winning the mass. senate - mr. obama's radical liberal agenda and obamacare have suffered a crushing horrible defeat.

not even ted's memory and mr. obama's so called star power could help mrs. coakley.

God Bless America

[smcrorey]

:clap: abc news - Republican Scott Brown Defeats Democrat Martha Coakley in Mass. Senate Race

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republic ... id=9602776

turn out the lights the party is over.

The party is over? Really? You mean the democrats don't get to p**** out to anything and everything that the republicans want anymore?

Shut up.

[trickydick]

:clap: abc news - Republican Scott Brown Defeats Democrat Martha Coakley in Mass. Senate Race

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republic ... id=9602776

turn out the lights the party is over.

The party is over? Really? You mean the democrats don't get to ***** out to anything and everything that the republicans want anymore?

Shut up.

the party has been all demoRats the last year the poor old repubs couldn't even come to the dance. In fact the party was behind closed doors.
I guess this will have more die hards defending berry, but it may start some to rethink this take over of big gov't.
Coakley isn't that bad just watched her on the tube this was more about obama than her. One month ago she had a 30 point lead.
The debate and obama did her in.

[claimtruth]

Coakley isn't that bad

Does anyone else think she looks like Julie Andrews?

[trickydick]

Coakley isn't that bad

Does anyone else think she looks like Julie Andrews?

I didn't think about that. She isn't hard to look at.