biggest propaganda HOAX - born gay or global warming?

[jross]

No one said anything about divine cause, I've never used the Bible for a stance and I have never said anything about Christianity other than that I am a very poor Christian.

Your hatred is showing again,[admin edit].

I do have to apologize. You are not sanctimonious or self-righteous, that's someone else. You also don't use your religious beliefs as part of your arguments/posts.

I'll just chalk your tendencies to only read what you want in the posts of others, and in the world in general, the intolerance, and other characteristics that you have demonstrated, and that I have posted on, to general cognitive limitations and disabilities. You can't perceive what you will not accept. Since you accept very little, you perceive very little.

I keep thinking that, if you'd just open your mind a little, you'd understand more. However, I understand that thinking that you might open your mind a little is like thinking that all a paraplegic needs to do is stand up and walk. It won't happen, whether based on religion, culture, or biological causes, you will never perceive very much.

Edited to add: I went back and looked at my response to your earlier post. I take back my apology. When tianS ehT posted, I mentioned his god. When you posted, I mentioned your beliefs, but I did not indicate that they were religious beliefs. You are bound by your inflexible beliefs, whatever their origin.

[Neo]

No one said anything about divine cause, I've never used the Bible for a stance and I have never said anything about Christianity other than that I am a very poor Christian.

Your hatred is showing again,[admin edit].

I do have to apologize. You are not sanctimonious or self-righteous, that's someone else. You also don't use your religious beliefs as part of your arguments/posts.

I'll just chalk your tendencies to only read what you want in the posts of others, and in the world in general, the intolerance, and other characteristics that you have demonstrated, and that I have posted on, to general cognitive limitations and disabilities. You can't perceive what you will not accept. Since you accept very little, you perceive very little.

I keep thinking that, if you'd just open your mind a little, you'd understand more. However, I understand that thinking that you might open your mind a little is like thinking that all a paraplegic needs to do is stand up and walk. It won't happen, whether based on religion, culture, or biological causes, you will never perceive very much.

Edited to add: I went back and looked at my response to your earlier post. I take back my apology. When tianS ehT posted, I mentioned his god. When you posted, I mentioned your beliefs, but I did not indicate that they were religious beliefs. You are bound by your inflexible beliefs, whatever their origin.

Meh whatever...

It's easy to form an opinion about gay marriage just by looking at the facts. Has nothing to do with what anyone else (or their God) believes. See, I understand that if you open the door here then you have to grant the same rights to polygamists, folks that may want to marry pets and any other weirdo in the country.

Lines are always drawn somewhere in writing laws, this one seems to be in the right place.

[Firemall]

On the other hand, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that we contribute to the deterioration of our ozone everyday by the lifestyle we lead and the products we use.

Been hearing that for 30 years...Just more scare tactics, believe it if you like...

Claimtruth; It's ironic that you brought up the horrendous Ozone catastrophe . No offense but ,I haven't heard a word about the ozone hole in years since the so called reseachers supposedly found it about 25 years ago . But it's also odd that Dupont decided if they couldn't beat the inviromentalist then they would just join them. It worked out well , the Hole is obviously closed up ,I guess, since we haven't heard a word about it in years ?? Dupont got filthy rich from getting the exclusive patents on the replacement refrigerant. Just like they did when they had the patents for 50+ years on R-12-22-etc florocarbon based refrigerants. It's a shame the Dupont Patents just happened to be expiring & could not be renewed again , about the same time the Ozone hole was discovered & all hell broke loose in the heavens.
Sorry ,, Claimtruth----But ,imo, the ozone hole scare was a scam created by a partnership of Gov, enviromentalist & Dupont & this gig cost average Joe & Jane an extra $1500 .00 per automobile & no telling how much in commercial & residential residual cost that only a few benefited from . Did you know that the Mt. St.Helen's volcano eruption produced more florocarbons in one eruption than man has produced to date ??

[claimtruth]

no offense taken Firemall Probably the use of the term ozone wasn't accurate. I was under the impression that although the problem with the ozone had been mitigated, it could still be damaged again. It is possible that i totally fell for something that was just conjured up.
But we could be a lot nicer to our environment and atmosphere. I don't know what the long term effects from the products that we use on our health and the health of our environment but would say any products/by products that create smog and a general haze can't be good. What would be wrong with recycling and car pooling; using more organic and less chemical products? At least look into what we could do differently...
Don't have an opinion either way on global warming, because I don't know enough about it and there are good arguments on both sides.

[jross]

Meh whatever...

It's easy to form an opinion about gay marriage just by looking at the facts. Has nothing to do with what anyone else (or their God) believes. See, I understand that if you open the door here then you have to grant the same rights to polygamists, folks that may want to marry pets and any other weirdo in the country.

Lines are always drawn somewhere in writing laws, this one seems to be in the right place.

You may be correct on the polygamy, but I don't see how extending equal rights to all consenting adults will lead to extending those same rights to pets or other non-human things.

I do figure that polygamists will be next in line though. More power to them.

[jross]

no offense taken Firemall Probably the use of the term ozone wasn't accurate. I was under the impression that although the problem with the ozone had been mitigated, it could still be damaged again. It is possible that i totally fell for something that was just conjured up.
But we could be a lot nicer to our environment and atmosphere. I don't know what the long term effects from the products that we use on our health and the health of our environment but would say any products/by products that create smog and a general haze can't be good. What would be wrong with recycling and car pooling; using more organic and less chemical products? At least look into what we could do differently...
Don't have an opinion either way on global warming, because I don't know enough about it and there are good arguments on both sides.

I tend to lean your way claimtruth. I'm not up on all the sciences involved to know what to believe about the human factor in climate change/global warming. I really don't know whether anyone can actually predict what is going to happen, but there seem to have been enough theories that somebody will probably nail it.

I think that we are poisoning our Home and ourselves, and as there are more people using technology, it's going to get worse considering the way we live now. Ultimately, the Earth will survive, but I'm not sure that we will. It should be an interesting next few decades. I look forward to what I get to see of them. I guess we'll see how well we adapt, or don't.

[The Saint]

true origin - “This is the Way God Made Me” A Scientific Examination of Homosexuality and the “Gay Gene”

http://www.trueorigin.org/gaygene01.asp

the so called gay gene does not exist and thus if folks choose to indulge in the homosexual lifestyle it is a choice and not a civil rights issue.

the "this is the way God made me" excuse or justification is not holding any water with most Americans and the military.

poor devils!

fox news - Think Antarctica Is Cold? Try America

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/ ... y-america/

oh my we are in the middle of the global warming phenomenon!

[IronfootMcGurk]

As I tried to point out early in this thread, gayness may have a physiological, biological foundation and yet not be the product of a "gay gene." So your [Saint's] reasoning is totally specious, and logical trap for the foolish and unwary. A contention that would prove nothing if it were true.

But tonight, I a more interested in global warming, because this morning, I overheard Pat Robertson on his slant-show "700 Club" poking foolish fun at Al Gore because of the record cold winter weather some places are having.

It was foolish to accept global warming because of a local heat wave, and it is equally foolish to discount global warming because of cold weather.

Lately I have been interested in John D. Hamaker, who maintained that rising CO2 levels presage an ice age. This has been picked up by those dogmatically opposing the global warming theory, as in this article: http://www.etherzone.com/2010/bren010810.shtml

What those citing Hamaker to attack global warming fail to understand is that (1) Hamaker links rising CO2 levels to climatic catastrophe, and (2) that he did see rising CO2 levels affecting climate because of the greenhouse effect. Hamaker thought that global warming is a tropical effect that helps bring on greater cooling toward the poles, thus producing an ice age (if I understand his hypotheses).

So Hamaker would be on the side of trying to lower atmospheric CO2, while antiglobal warming fanatics use his name to argue precisely the opposite! (Hamaker argued for reforestation as a means of lowering CO2 levels, but if he had lived to see today's numbers, I think he would endorse curbing industrial CO2 emissions. Anyone read Hamaker's book?)

[trickydick]

I've heard it said there is a God gene that's why some people believe and others don't so maybe there is this gay gene...
Think?

[IronfootMcGurk]

Could be. Though those with or without the putative gene don't seem to breed true. Many an atheist is descended from a preacher, and vice versa.

I used to think that religiosity was an artifact of having too big a brain with a lot of idle capacity. More recently, I've been wondering if other animals aren't religious as well. Maybe the regard a dog has for its master is similar to the religious feeling in humans.